| Author | Message | ||
     Ben Baltrusaitis New member Username: Freepistol Post Number: 8 Registered: 09-2005 |
I'm trying to get an insurance quote before I buy an Express. I haven't had much luck getting an underwriter interested. In my due diligence, I looked at all Express accidents and came upon this: http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_id=20060223X00224&ntsbno=DFW06LA071&akey= 1 The fact that there is no factory support is a major obstacle. I thought experimentals were not so dependant on factory support; wrong. Ben (still hoping to join this elite group) | ||
| Allyn J. Roe New member Username: Allynroe Post Number: 8 Registered: 11-2003 |
Bob Sorrell can get insurance (liability only) Contact: Bob Sorrell avinsrep@telebyte.com 888-265-0844 | ||
| Phil & Margie Hodge New member Username: N410mp Post Number: 37 Registered: 01-2000 |
Ben - I'm not sure what you are asking or posting, but since you titled it "unexplained engine stoppage" I'll assume you want more information on the 3 engine related incidents mentioned in the NTSB report. The first time it stopped when I didn't want it to was pilot error - I accidently bumped the fuel pump swith to the high boost position on short final and the engine flooded and stopped. Since I was following what I had learned many moons ago as a student pilot I was high enough to dead stick it in with no problems. The second engine stoppage has been well documented here on this site - I landed a "little" hard, broke the nose gear, and ground the propellor off on the runway. The third report of an engine stoppage was after I sold her, and all I know is what is stated in the NTSB report. I have some pretty good guesses, but since the new owner has indicated he is considering suing me, I don't think I should speculate here. I continue to love the Express, and had my situation been different I would still be a happy owner of one. The factory support has been unfortunate, to say the least, from the very beginning of this truly wonderful airplane. Good luck in your research, and maybe we'll all see you around the pattern some day. | ||
| Terry Sack New member Username: Terrysack Post Number: 41 Registered: 11-2002 |
You might try contacting Bob Sorrel. He is very knowledgable about the Express and will be able to help you. Sorrell, Bob E-mail Address(es): avinsrep@telebyte.com Terry | ||
| Eric Holmberg New member Username: Erich Post Number: 110 Registered: 05-2002 |
Thanks for letting us know about the situation, Phil. I saw the accident report a while back and thought it was odd that there was nothing mentioned about it anywhere. Now it makes sense. Good luck. Back to insurance... Are other people still able to get liability insurance? What about not-in-motion coverage? Those are the only two that I plan on having since full coverage is just too expensive. -Eric | ||
| Ben Baltrusaitis New member Username: Freepistol Post Number: 9 Registered: 09-2005 |
Phil, I'm glad to see you are still on the board. I thought it was odd that Dora crashed and there was nothing mentioned about her. I was curious why AIG would not even quote a liability policy and thought the crash had something to do with it along with the sad loss of Steve. I was told AIG would not write hull because there is no factory support and when I asked about liability only, I was told that there is more liability exposure than hull.  I will keep trying to get this worked out. Thanks to Allyn and Terry for the lead. Thanks, Phil, for explaining the situation. Ben (may be an Express owner in the spring.) | ||
| Gary Markwardt New member Username: Gmark Post Number: 39 Registered: 12-1999 |
I have both hull and liability thru the EAA insurer, Falcon Insurance 1-866-647-4322 or www.falconinsurance.com. I believe you need to be an EAA member to participate ($40/yr) which is a good thing anyway. Falcon acts as an agent. The insurance is actually placed with Global Aerospace. I just renewed it in May. So either I am "grandfathered" or they are not worried about factory support. It is not cheap, however, although 1/2 of what Avemco quoted 3 yr. ago. | ||
| Jim Ward New member Username: Jehward Post Number: 49 Registered: 02-2000 |
I am in the process of securing insurance, and the only thing Falcon could come up with for me (very low time pilot) was thru London Aviation Underwriters, with restrictions: 1) Need 25 hrs of dual instruction from an instructor with a minimum of 100hrs experience in an Express. (Not sure how to attain this) 2) The first 10 hrs. of flight would be required to be solo (not a problem). The cost for this would be $4440/yr. My other option is 'public liability'insurance thru Avemco which only covers damage to another's property and not the airplane or occupants. Requirement is 10 hrs. in type. The cost for this would be $1200/yr. | ||
| doug shell New member Username: Rv76 Post Number: 6 Registered: 03-2006 |
i also have insurance through falcon, full coverage, about half the price i paid for velocity xlrg for same coverage. purchased insurance after factory closed, and had no problems, have renewed it once since orignal coverage, with no comment as to factory status. bob sorrel gave me a better quote but the factory closed before i needed the ins. so i ended up with falcon where i had velocity insured. |