| Author | Message | ||
     Robert G. Tompkins New member Username: Drbob Post Number: 8 Registered: 09-2009 |
On a recent flight in Florida, ATC asked me what the "three letter code" was for an Express Auriga (2000). I did not know. Does anyone have an idea what this is? | ||
| Michael Farley New member Username: Mikefarley Post Number: 20 Registered: 11-2006 |
Normally, you can lump it into one of two codes: HXB = homebuilt in the 100-200 knot range or EXPR = Express. I've seen both, with the former being the more popular | ||
| Kurt A. Schumacher New member Username: K_schumacher Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2001 |
More four letters, e.g. PA28, MO20, ... according to the ICAO database it's EXPR: http://www.icao.int/anb/ais/8643/index.cfm Model = EXPRESS Total Count: 2 Manufacturer Model Type Designator Description Engine Type Engine Count WTC Photo EXPRESS Express EXPR Landplane Piston 1 L - WHEELER Express EXPR Landplane Piston 1 L - -Kurt. | ||
| Chaz King New member Username: Chazking Post Number: 17 Registered: 01-2005 |
All, I have used HXB & EXPR, as that's the Express designation. HXB, usually, has the ATC asking about the type of experimental, whereas the EXPR does not bring the questions. Does anyone use the "Express" designation over "experimental" in their call to ATC? I know we are required to use "experimental," but with the EXPR designation, we give ATC the performance characteristics! Regards, Chäz | ||
| Robert G. Tompkins New member Username: Drbob Post Number: 9 Registered: 09-2009 |
By popular consensus (and ICAO), EXPR it is, thank everyone for their help. Regards Robert | ||
| Charles Wood New member Username: Cwood Post Number: 11 Registered: 11-2004 |
However, here in the USA, HXB is the only designator in the ATC Handbook (7110.65) (Appendix C) that percribes the flight charactisitcs for that type aircraft (EXPR is not listed in this handbook). At least HXB gives the controller some information. I doubt that many controllers today have any idea what type aircraft EXPR is.. | ||
| Chaz King New member Username: Chazking Post Number: 18 Registered: 01-2005 |
Charles, You are correct. However, the FAA has a considerable number of pubs and the contractions publication (http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/CNT/5-2-E.htm) has the EXPR contraction. More info on contraction rules, etc. are in the body of the document. Plus, EXPR is referenced as an aircraft type on DUATS (http://www.duats.com/actypesearch.cgi) and appears to be taken from the Contraction's document. As I've noted, earlier, I use "EXPR" on IFR flight plans submitted through DUATS and have not experienced issues. Prior to using "EXPR," I was using "HXB." I, strongly, recommend that all follow your advice, Charles. However, I will continue to use "EXPR," and pass along any ATC contrary comments to the forum. Best, Chäz |