| Author | Message | ||
     Bruce McGlamery New member Username: Bnmcglamery Post Number: 2 Registered: 11-2002 |
Can someone tell me what the specs or type is on the Uni cloth used on the Express? I know the Bid is 7781 but I can't seem to find the numbers for the Uni. Bruce McGlamery Winter Springs, FL | ||
| JimHurd Unregistered guest |
I just purchased the Express2000 damaged in Canada and I plan to rebuild. I need any information regarding where to purchase the materials needed to get started. I am located in Statesville NC, 45 miles north of Charlotte NC. Would welcome any help from you experienced people out there. | ||
| Matthew Byrne New member Username: Mbyrne Post Number: 24 Registered: 07-2003 |
Jim, My friend and I have a large database and growing of specs so that you can build your own parts. Let me know what you might need and I will see what I can get you. Also, what does a wrecked Express go for? Matt | ||
| Brian McKinney New member Username: Bmckinney Post Number: 71 Registered: 05-2000 |
Hi Jim, From the pictures and from what I heard of the accident, a new set of wings and firewall forward might get you well on your way again. The panel, tail, and interior look good. Fortunately for you, those are the "old style" wings, which you can probably find a pair for free if you look around a bit. Good luck! Brian | ||
| Ted Gaston Unregistered guest |
Brian, Jim. When you say that those are "old style wings" you are both right and wrong. While they are not the latest production version, there is a significant difference between those wings and the "old" style (S-90 and before) wing. The wings on that wreck are S-2000 production wings and unless some one has scrapped thier project, you will neither find replacements nor can you build new ones without fabricating your own tooling since the wing molds for that series were modified to make the "R.G." wing. | ||
| Jim Ward New member Username: Jehward Post Number: 25 Registered: 02-2000 |
Ted: Does that mean that old-style wings will not fit? Unless the carry-thru has changed, I would think that the old style wings would fit. I know that the fuselage was 'thickened" to accomodate the thicker RG wing/gear, but I would still believe that the older wing can still be married to any of the fuselages. Set us straight. Jim | ||
| Brian McKinney New member Username: Bmckinney Post Number: 72 Registered: 05-2000 |
Thanks for the information Ted. Is the general shape and spar the same? I only really saw an open 2000 wing (pre-retract) at SNF or Oshkosh back in 2000/2001. From what I remember, the 2000 wing had a removable leading edge, an internal forward shear web in the fuel area, and different fore and aft shear web attachment hardware. Oh, and different hardware for the aileron and flap. I modified my Wheeler wings (pre-closeout) to use the new landing gear brackets, flap hardware, fuel probe. Brian | ||
| JimHurd Unregistered guest |
Thanks Guys I only know the aircraft was build in 2003. I don't know what revision these wings are. Question..Why can't the wings be rebuilt If there are no other options. As to the cost, 60,000 to 70,000. is close. The panel is really nice. | ||
| Jim Butler Unregistered guest |
Jim, If I remember correctly, that airplane is pretty close to my airplane. If you would like, you are welcome to come and look at mine and take all the pictures you want. Also, you can make a copy of my construction manual with the pictures we took while we were building. Jim | ||
| Jim Hurd New member Username: Jim_hurd Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2005 |
Thanks all If anyone knows of a set of wings please let me know. If anyone has repaired the wings I would like to talk with you. Jim}} | ||
| Lou Addessi Unregistered guest |
I have a pair of wings that are the original express & the ribs were installed by the second oweners of the express comany. The gas lines are installed with float sensers. I paid 3k for the wings & another 4k to have the ribs & gas lies installed. I would like to recover some of my cost & will settle for 3k plus shipping. If interested I can send pictures. I'm located on LI,NY. | ||
| Ted Gaston Unregistered guest |
While the original wings are close. I don't believe they will work without substantial rework. The distance between the fore and aft shearties is slightly different. The origional spar is the same and the spar pin location didn't change from the Wheeler design through EDI to EAC. The method of attachment for fore and aft shearties is different. And, if I'm not mistaken, from looking at the pictures of the wreck. One of the main spars was chainsawed to remove the wing for transport. If that's the case that one is scrap!!! All in all it would seem that modifying the old Wheeler wings are your best bet. I hope there wasn't any post crash damage to the carry through. | ||
| jimhurd Unregistered guest |
Lou thank you, I will need some time here to sort all out. The spar was broken as wing was torn off during crash. Right wing. The carry through has no damage. Can a spar be removed from wing, rebuilt and re-installed. I would rather pay the 3K if the wing was the same. What kind of changes am I looking at to use the old style wings? What are the advantages of the new design? Keep in mind all the hardware is there and useable. | ||
| Ted Gaston Unregistered guest |
Once the unidirectional glass on the spar cap is compromised, the wing is scrap. I would be real carefull about that carry through. If the wing took enough of a whack to break, there's no telling what else got broken. At the very least, the carry through could be separated from the fuselage. That would be bad! | ||
| Allyn Roe Unregistered guest |
I agree with Ted’s comments on the carrythrough structure. In addition, there was crinkling at the empennage so you do not know the extent of delamination in the skin and rib locations. Impact loads will delaminate the glass from the foam easily. Its nice to pick up a cheap project but I’d keep your passengers in the back of your head. There was a lot of salvageable components including an awesome instrument panel. I’d search for someone’s old glass kit, transfer the components into it, and then trash the old airframe. I dont belive that aircraft can be safely rebuilt. | ||
| Jim Hurd New member Username: Jim_hurd Post Number: 2 Registered: 02-2005 |
Ted Can you give me a bit more information about the attach points on using the older wing on the 2000 express? Do I have to have special hardware to do this job? Any help is appreciated. | ||
| Brian McKinney New member Username: Bmckinney Post Number: 73 Registered: 05-2000 |
Jim, The old wings had two aluminum attach plates that sandwiched the fore and aft shear webs on the inboad end of the wing. The plates slipped through two slots in the fuselage on both sides of the fuselage shear webs which also serve as seat supports. A single bolt is then used to tie the plates to the fuselage shear web. As Ted mentioned earlier, the position of the fuselage shear web is extremely critical so that these wing shear web plates matchup perfectly. Here's a picture I have of the aft plates on my wing when I was installing my Rib J.  Have fun! Brian | ||
| Jim Hurd New member Username: Jim_hurd Post Number: 3 Registered: 02-2005 |
Thanks Brian, but can I attach the late model attaching brackets to the old style wing and leave the fuselage alone?? Great picture, Thanks Jim | ||
| Ted Gaston Unregistered guest |
Jim, short answer, no. The new wing has an extension of the shearweb that protrudes past rib J. This extension has 40 lb. foam core for compression strength that allows you to attach the new bracket part with a single 1/4" cross bolt. The extension gets trimed to fit during wing installation. | ||
| Brian McKinney New member Username: Bmckinney Post Number: 74 Registered: 05-2000 |
The last 8" or so of my "old" wing shear webs are 40# foam and they protrude out to the end of the wing skin past Rib J. Larry told me a few years ago that I could use the new attach brackets with the old wings, but he suggested to just stick with the old stuff to save money since I had all the parts... Brian | ||
| Jeff Dingbaum New member Username: Aviators Post Number: 32 Registered: 12-2000 |
I'll second what Brian said. My wings are the same and I had the same discussion with Larry. He said that the new attachment was easier, but I would save money with my orginal brackets. Jeff | ||
| Anonymous |
Jim Hurd; My name is Jim Lewis and I'm in the Richmond Va area and invite you to visit for a weekend and look and compare what you have with mine. Have an early Aurgia (Series 90) with wings completed and also have good help with Lou Addessi ( had to say that because he reads this page too) an making great progress towards completion. Lou has a set of wings that may help you a lot. Some one said and I think I would agree, Find a builder that has decided to quit, buy his kit use what you can off of what you have and you'll be well ahead of the game, with a more positive end results. Call me on 804- 457-9135 JIM | ||
| Sean (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest |
I am helping build an FT elevator and the manual calls out for 1/2" foam. This seems to be a standard in most of the sections. Does anyone know what type of foam is use Urethane, Divinycell etc. Also is there a specific density? Any help is greatly appreciated! | ||
| jorge baccaro New member Username: Jabaccaro Post Number: 11 Registered: 08-2009 |
Hello I writing from Argentina were I brougth the plane from USA, I put in flying on March. Yesterday I got an accident without any injuries, but a wing was broken at level of the inner tank. Also there minor damage in anothers parts of the plane. Also I need a new front landing leg. But I haven´t any planes, so I like to get more information, for looking the posisibility for repearing or if somebody has a wing, then I would be interest in buying. | ||
| Chaz King New member Username: Chazking Post Number: 24 Registered: 01-2005 |
Jorge, I have a nose gear that I bought from Express factory last year but did not use; used the "old" one after magnaflux indicated it was good. Regards, Chäz | ||
| Gary H. Wolfelt New member Username: Wolfelt Post Number: 63 Registered: 11-2003 |
Jorge: Darrell Peterson (Composite Aircraft Technologies) a/k/a the factory has everything you would need to put your airplane back together. He can be reached at 360-864-6271. GHW | ||
| jorge baccaro New member Username: Jabaccaro Post Number: 12 Registered: 08-2009 |
Hello Gary thanks for your answer. Do you know the email adress? because is easier for me (because language) Thanks again. | ||
| jorge baccaro New member Username: Jabaccaro Post Number: 13 Registered: 08-2009 |
Hello Chäz my email is jabaccaro@yahoo.com so we don´t use the forum for comertial matter, could you send me a mail? | ||
| Ben Baltrusaitis New member Username: Freepistol Post Number: 23 Registered: 09-2005 |
Jorge, I'm sorry to hear of your accident, however, it is good news that no one was hurt. Good luck with your rebuild. Ben | ||
| Jim Ward New member Username: Jehward Post Number: 68 Registered: 02-2000 |
Glad to hear there were no injuries. If you could explain what happened, we could all learn. What version Express do you have(cruciform/Series 90)? I have a complete CT kit available. Jim | ||
| jorge baccaro New member Username: Jabaccaro Post Number: 14 Registered: 08-2009 |
Thanks Ben and Jim I want to remark the stronghtness of the fuselagge, I landed in a very hard zone, and the a tree stop with the left wing. I get out without any problem. it is a cruciform but the tail was change in 2007. The problem was with gas, but we have to determinate what was wrong. The left wing was almost cut at level of the union of exterior to middle third, but the anchoring is o.k. Jim what´s your opinion, change the wing or repair? About you kit, is assambled or not? could you sell only one wing? Thanks again | ||
| paul mikaelsen New member Username: Pmikaelsen Post Number: 16 Registered: 07-2002 |
Hi I live in LaPaz Bolivia and I have a compleet fiberglass landing gear for an Express 2000. my e-mail is <pmikaelsen@gmail.com> Paul Mikaelsen | ||
| jorge baccaro New member Username: Jabaccaro Post Number: 16 Registered: 08-2009 |
Thanks Paul The landing gear was change for the new version. Nice to know that there is another plane near to me, in Argentina this is the only one. Could be sometimes joint us, after being flying again! |